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And how did you go from there? This recognition that this was really changing your personal life and also making you a stronger leader, was in sap. What was the step for you to move, uh, this kind of work into the organization ending up with. The director for mindfulness, the first step in this journey was that I became, became an integral coach.

This is the type of coaching which also integrates some spiritual practice. . And at this time, again, I would have never spoken about this in corporate world, in in my environment, I would've felt, no, no, this is insecure. I can't talk about this. Um, and becoming a coach and learning even more how strong this, this practices impact people in their, in their development and their personal strengths and their capacity to handle themself.